December 19, 2011 - by David Hess
In the latest set of polls, Syracuse is securely in the top spot of both rankings. They’re listed first on 30 of 31 AP ballots, and on 53 of 64 in the Coaches poll.
Given the simple, biased mechanism that drives the polls — start with last week’s rating, then move people up when they lose and down when they win — the Orange make sense at #1.
We’re not going to argue they don’t deserve that top spot. But it’s by no means a unanimous decision, and no team has yet emerged as a clear front runner this season.
In fact, here are 10 different teams that are ranked first by at least one human poll voter or one respected computer ranking.
Team | W-L | Best Win | Lost To | Rated #1 By |
---|---|---|---|---|
Syracuse | 11-0 | vs Florida | -- | 83 humans, both polls |
Ohio State | 10-1 | vs Duke | @ Kansas (w/o Sullinger) | 6 humans |
Kentucky | 9-1 | vs UNC | @ Indiana | 4 humans, TR Priored Predictive |
Louisville | 10-0 | vs Memphis | -- | 2 humans |
Wisconsin | 10-2 | vs UNLV | @ UNC, vs Marquette | Sagarin Predictive, Pomeroy |
Missouri | 11-0 | vs Cal (N) | -- | TR Pure Predictive |
Baylor | 9-0 | @ BYU | -- | Sagarin Elo Chess, TR Overall |
Indiana | 10-0 | vs Kentucky | -- | TR Wins Only |
Marquette | 10-0 | @ Wisconsin | -- | Sagarin Overall |
Duke | 9-1 | vs Kansas (N) | @ Ohio State | RPI* |
*Yes, we know we said “respected”. The RPI is respected — by the selection committee.
With all these dissenting opinions, we thought it would fun to do a poll of the polls and rankings.
We let each poll or ranking listed above have one ballot, and awarded 25 points for a first place vote, 24 points for a second place, and so on, down to 1 point for 25th place. Here are the results:
Rank | Team | TR Priored | TR Pure Pred | TR Wins | TR Over | Sag Pred | Sag Elo | Sag Over | Pom | RPI | AP | Coach | Total |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Syracuse | 2 | 2 | 8 | 5 | 2 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 248 |
2 | Kentucky | 1 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 20 | 3 | 3 | 233 |
3 | Marquette | 7 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 221 |
4 | Ohio St | 4 | 7 | 9 | 8 | 3 | 10 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 208 | |
5 | Louisville | 12 | 10 | 5 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 9 | 10 | 4 | 4 | 206 |
6 | Duke | 11 | 15 | 6 | 9 | 10 | 7 | 6 | 10 | 1 | 7 | 5 | 199 |
7 | Baylor | 14 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 16 | 1 | 9 | 13 | 6 | 7 | 188 | |
8 | Wisconsin | 3 | 6 | 15 | 12 | 1 | 15 | 8 | 1 | 13 | 13 | 14 | 185 |
9 | Kansas | 10 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 7 | 11 | 10 | 6 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 173 |
10 | N Carolina | 5 | 9 | 16 | 14 | 6 | 14 | 11 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 169 | |
11 | Missouri | 6 | 1 | 7 | 2 | 14 | 22 | 16 | 7 | 9 | 8 | 168 | |
12 | Indiana | 9 | 8 | 1 | 3 | 15 | 3 | 7 | 14 | 17 | 18 | 165 | |
13 | Murray St | 14 | 10 | 10 | 24 | 4 | 12 | 6 | 22 | 22 | 110 | ||
14 | Michigan St | 13 | 16 | 18 | 17 | 9 | 21 | 15 | 12 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 107 |
15 | Florida | 8 | 13 | 23 | 18 | 11 | 21 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 106 | ||
16 | Georgetown | 15 | 19 | 14 | 15 | 17 | 16 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 102 | |
17 | UNLV | 20 | 18 | 19 | 16 | 12 | 18 | 13 | 20 | 8 | 21 | 23 | 98 |
18 | Connecticut | 22 | 20 | 23 | 19 | 18 | 15 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 93 | ||
19 | Ohio | 22 | 11 | 13 | 9 | 17 | 17 | 67 | |||||
20 | S Mississippi | 24 | 21 | 21 | 17 | 19 | 4 | 50 | |||||
21 | Stanford | 16 | 17 | 19 | 13 | 20 | 22 | 49 | |||||
22 | N Iowa | 24 | 23 | 20 | 24 | 3 | 36 | ||||||
23 | Harvard | 17 | 22 | 13 | 23 | 21 | 25 | 35 | |||||
23 | Virginia | 18 | 21 | 18 | 25 | 19 | 22 | 24 | 35 | ||||
25 | California | 23 | 12 | 24 | 22 | 17 | 32 | ||||||
26 | Northwestern | 13 | 25 | 12 | 28 | ||||||||
27 | Pittsburgh | 15 | 13 | 24 | |||||||||
28 | Xavier | 14 | 15 | 23 | |||||||||
29 | Seton Hall | 5 | 21 | ||||||||||
30 | St. Mary's | 25 | 20 | 20 | 25 | 25 | 22 | 19 | |||||
31 | Wichita St | 17 | 19 | 24 | 18 | ||||||||
32 | Mississippi St | 18 | 17 | 17 | |||||||||
33 | St. Joseph's | 11 | 15 | ||||||||||
33 | BYU | 21 | 21 | 21 | 15 | ||||||||
33 | Saint Louis | 25 | 20 | 18 | 15 | ||||||||
36 | Michigan | 20 | 19 | 13 | |||||||||
37 | Iona | 14 | 12 | ||||||||||
38 | Indiana St | 15 | 11 | ||||||||||
39 | Vanderbilt | 16 | 10 | ||||||||||
39 | Creighton | 24 | 23 | 21 | 10 | ||||||||
39 | Texas | 19 | 23 | 10 | |||||||||
42 | Minnesota | 18 | 8 | ||||||||||
43 | Marshall | 23 | 22 | 7 | |||||||||
44 | Denver | 23 | 3 | ||||||||||
44 | Cleveland St | 23 | 3 | ||||||||||
44 | Illinois | 25 | 24 | 3 | |||||||||
47 | Alabama | 24 | 2 | ||||||||||
47 | Mississippi | 24 | 2 | ||||||||||
49 | Kansas St | 25 | 1 | ||||||||||
49 | C Florida | 25 | 1 | ||||||||||
49 | Purdue | 25 | 1 |
Syracuse is in first place here because of the humans and the RPI. Ignore those, and Kentucky rises up to number one.
The RPI looks absolutely ridiculous when you put it in context here. No Ohio State. No Baylor. No North Carolina. No Missouri. No Indiana. And so on.
Marquette may be the most underrated team in the country right now, at #10 in both polls, despite coming in third in the consensus.
Either that or Wisconsin. The Badgers are ranked in the top 6 of every predictive rating listed, yet are only #13 and #14 in the polls. (This could explain why Marquette is underrated, since their best win is against Wisconsin.)
Five teams make the consensus top 25 despite not being ranked in either human poll:
Five teams are ranked in both the AP and Coaches poll, despite not appearing in the top 25 of any of the computer rankings we included. Not even the RPI.
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